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		<title>By: Community Management and Community Managers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community Management and Community Managers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about community managers over 2 years ago in a post that referenced something Chris Brogan, a leading authority on the subject, had posted and Chris replied with a few words on the importance of metrics. The lack of performance metrics for community management is one reason why the position is so sought after, simply put we have not been measuring performance for this role because few people really understood where to look in the organization for the points to measure success and failure on when it came to community management; we’ve been stuck in this “we know it when we see it” mentality. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote about community managers over 2 years ago in a post that referenced something Chris Brogan, a leading authority on the subject, had posted and Chris replied with a few words on the importance of metrics. The lack of performance metrics for community management is one reason why the position is so sought after, simply put we have not been measuring performance for this role because few people really understood where to look in the organization for the points to measure success and failure on when it came to community management; we’ve been stuck in this “we know it when we see it” mentality. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Community Management and Community Managers &#124; Venture Chronicles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community Management and Community Managers &#124; Venture Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about community managers over 2 years ago in a post that referenced something Chris Brogan, a leading authority on the subject, had posted and Chris replied with a few words on the importance of metrics. The lack of performance metrics for community management is one reason why the position is so sought after, simply put we have not been measuring performance for this role because few people really understood where to look in the organization for the points to measure success and failure on when it came to community management; we&#8217;ve been stuck in this &#8220;we know it when we see it&#8221; mentality. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote about community managers over 2 years ago in a post that referenced something Chris Brogan, a leading authority on the subject, had posted and Chris replied with a few words on the importance of metrics. The lack of performance metrics for community management is one reason why the position is so sought after, simply put we have not been measuring performance for this role because few people really understood where to look in the organization for the points to measure success and failure on when it came to community management; we&#8217;ve been stuck in this &#8220;we know it when we see it&#8221; mentality. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ESME &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Choosing the right team</title>
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		<dc:creator>ESME &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Choosing the right team</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Essential Skills of a Community Manager &#124; chrisbrogan.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Essential Skills of a Community Manager &#124; chrisbrogan.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FreshNetworks Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How not to run an online community</title>
		<link>http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2008/04/28/community-managers-and-managing-communities/comment-page-1/#comment-276249</link>
		<dc:creator>FreshNetworks Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How not to run an online community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tribal IQ and Social Media &#124; iyinet webmaster forumu 2008 seo yar??mas?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribal IQ and Social Media &#124; iyinet webmaster forumu 2008 seo yar??mas?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tribal IQ and Social Media &#171; flowing motion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tribal IQ and Social Media &#171; flowing motion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: mike dunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike dunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>related to hearst, where we have community features we do tend to have a group overseeing them, mostly marketing types...

then there&#039;s me of course ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>related to hearst, where we have community features we do tend to have a group overseeing them, mostly marketing types&#8230;</p>
<p>then there&#8217;s me of course <img src='http://jeffnolan.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
I think you can pull some quant measures that are meaningful. For example, look at the number of people linking to your content, # of tweets, Alexa reach, and then do all of that compared to a competitive peer group and measure it period over period.

You are right that it&#039;s not traditional lead generation and such, but with marketing becoming a lot finer grained it is also more difficult to measure according to traditional benchmarks. Right now I am satisfied measuring brand reach and marketplace responsiveness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
I think you can pull some quant measures that are meaningful. For example, look at the number of people linking to your content, # of tweets, Alexa reach, and then do all of that compared to a competitive peer group and measure it period over period.</p>
<p>You are right that it&#8217;s not traditional lead generation and such, but with marketing becoming a lot finer grained it is also more difficult to measure according to traditional benchmarks. Right now I am satisfied measuring brand reach and marketplace responsiveness.</p>
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		<title>By: My del.icio.us bookmarks for April 28th &#124; AccMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>My del.icio.us bookmarks for April 28th &#124; AccMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Community Managers and Managing Communities &#124; Venture Chronicles - Interesting take on the issue of community management [...]</description>
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