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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2007/12/15/reach-for-your-wallets/comment-page-1/#comment-203051</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, you wouldn&#039;t get any of those 101 potholes fixed as a result of higher vehicle registration fees. The annual fee you pay to register your vehicle is divided between the CHP and the counties. Not sure if the amount returned to the counties is tied to the zipcode you live in or how it is divided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, you wouldn&#8217;t get any of those 101 potholes fixed as a result of higher vehicle registration fees. The annual fee you pay to register your vehicle is divided between the CHP and the counties. Not sure if the amount returned to the counties is tied to the zipcode you live in or how it is divided.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
		<link>http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2007/12/15/reach-for-your-wallets/comment-page-1/#comment-202801</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must be a nice Mercedes ;)  A $50,000 2007 vehicle registered this year would cost about $390 in total registration fees according to the DMV website.  A $100k vehicle goes up to $715.

The total renewal fee for my four year old Toyota Prius was $140 last month.  I&#039;d be happy to pay more if I could get in return some of those really nasty pot holes on Hwy 101 fixed! :-)
 
As for Davis restorating the original fees, a quick Google search resulted in this article:

http://www.fresnobee.com/columnists/walters/story/257974.html

&quot;Davis and his predecessor, Pete Wilson, had championed a series of reductions in the &quot;vehicle license fee&quot; that dropped it to about a third of its original rate of 2% of a car&#039;s value, but as the state&#039;s budget crisis worsened in 2003, Davis restored the tax to its original level.&quot;

You&#039;re certainly right that there was a firestorm about this during the recall, but I am sure you know as well as I that heated political discussions and/or propaganda often sacrifice facts and the truth for political gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must be a nice Mercedes <img src='http://jeffnolan.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   A $50,000 2007 vehicle registered this year would cost about $390 in total registration fees according to the DMV website.  A $100k vehicle goes up to $715.</p>
<p>The total renewal fee for my four year old Toyota Prius was $140 last month.  I&#8217;d be happy to pay more if I could get in return some of those really nasty pot holes on Hwy 101 fixed! <img src='http://jeffnolan.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for Davis restorating the original fees, a quick Google search resulted in this article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fresnobee.com/columnists/walters/story/257974.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fresnobee.com/columnists/walters/story/257974.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Davis and his predecessor, Pete Wilson, had championed a series of reductions in the &#8220;vehicle license fee&#8221; that dropped it to about a third of its original rate of 2% of a car&#8217;s value, but as the state&#8217;s budget crisis worsened in 2003, Davis restored the tax to its original level.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re certainly right that there was a firestorm about this during the recall, but I am sure you know as well as I that heated political discussions and/or propaganda often sacrifice facts and the truth for political gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2007/12/15/reach-for-your-wallets/comment-page-1/#comment-202759</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oliver,
I drive a 2007 Mercedes, my Sept 2007 registration renewal (purchased car in sept 2006) was $800. 

The average you point out is due to two factors, first and foremost, vehicle registration is computed from two variables, the cost of the vehicle and the age. Over time, my registration will go down as my car gets older up until the 11th year when it bottoms out. So that $150 increase is based on an average of the 40 million cars in California and how much revenue reg fees generate. 

Some, like me, are in the upper most band based on the valuation of my vehicle (the Davis plan did have a cap, so in retrospect my reg would not have simply tripled, it would have topped out at about $2k), while most middle class families are in a band higher than the average cited by the Rep Hollingsworth because they are driving cars less than 11 years old and valued higher than the median across the entire fleet. 

Case in point is the Ford F150 truck I also have, in October of this year the reg fee for that was $200 and I only paid $13,500 for the truck.

So while Hollingsworth&#039;s statement is technically accurate, it is misleading (on the low side) when you take a deeper dive on the stats.

Lastly, I&#039;m not aware that the Davis plan restored Wilson era fees, if so that would be surprising to me given then firestorm that erupted, and lastly, that the lawsuit filed in the wake of the fee increase was based on the fees being an illegal tax. I could be wrong on that point as well, could research item.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver,<br />
I drive a 2007 Mercedes, my Sept 2007 registration renewal (purchased car in sept 2006) was $800. </p>
<p>The average you point out is due to two factors, first and foremost, vehicle registration is computed from two variables, the cost of the vehicle and the age. Over time, my registration will go down as my car gets older up until the 11th year when it bottoms out. So that $150 increase is based on an average of the 40 million cars in California and how much revenue reg fees generate. </p>
<p>Some, like me, are in the upper most band based on the valuation of my vehicle (the Davis plan did have a cap, so in retrospect my reg would not have simply tripled, it would have topped out at about $2k), while most middle class families are in a band higher than the average cited by the Rep Hollingsworth because they are driving cars less than 11 years old and valued higher than the median across the entire fleet. </p>
<p>Case in point is the Ford F150 truck I also have, in October of this year the reg fee for that was $200 and I only paid $13,500 for the truck.</p>
<p>So while Hollingsworth&#8217;s statement is technically accurate, it is misleading (on the low side) when you take a deeper dive on the stats.</p>
<p>Lastly, I&#8217;m not aware that the Davis plan restored Wilson era fees, if so that would be surprising to me given then firestorm that erupted, and lastly, that the lawsuit filed in the wake of the fee increase was based on the fees being an illegal tax. I could be wrong on that point as well, could research item.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I am curious as to what kind of car (cars?) you drive if the registration fee would have jumped to more than $2500.

A quick Google search led me to this statement on a Republican State Senator&#039;s homepage:

http://republican.sen.ca.gov/web/36/cartax.asp

&quot;Governor Gray Davis recently tripled the Car Tax that all California drivers pay to register their vehicles. The 300% hike kicks in this October. On average, this tax increase, which I believe is illegal, will cost car owners over $150 annually.&quot;

Looks like your car isn&#039;t quite the &quot;average&quot; California car!? Here&#039;s a little math exercise for this sunny California Sunday.  What was the average California car registration fee prior to the Davis increase if it cost the average driver $150?  Just solve this equation: 3x = x + $150.

By the way, if I recall correctly (feel free to correct me), Davis simply restored the vehicle registration fees to the level that they were at originally before his predecessor Pete Wilson reduced them in 1998 due to a budget surplus (or, as some might say, to build up a &quot;tax cutter&quot; record for his Presidential election bid).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I am curious as to what kind of car (cars?) you drive if the registration fee would have jumped to more than $2500.</p>
<p>A quick Google search led me to this statement on a Republican State Senator&#8217;s homepage:</p>
<p><a href="http://republican.sen.ca.gov/web/36/cartax.asp" rel="nofollow">http://republican.sen.ca.gov/web/36/cartax.asp</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Governor Gray Davis recently tripled the Car Tax that all California drivers pay to register their vehicles. The 300% hike kicks in this October. On average, this tax increase, which I believe is illegal, will cost car owners over $150 annually.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looks like your car isn&#8217;t quite the &#8220;average&#8221; California car!? Here&#8217;s a little math exercise for this sunny California Sunday.  What was the average California car registration fee prior to the Davis increase if it cost the average driver $150?  Just solve this equation: 3x = x + $150.</p>
<p>By the way, if I recall correctly (feel free to correct me), Davis simply restored the vehicle registration fees to the level that they were at originally before his predecessor Pete Wilson reduced them in 1998 due to a budget surplus (or, as some might say, to build up a &#8220;tax cutter&#8221; record for his Presidential election bid).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand your point? This isn&#039;t about Washington, it&#039;s about Sacramento. We are facing a financial catastrophe because the Assembly and the Senate did not adequately address the last financial crisis by fixing the structural problem with the budget. What they did in 2003-2004 is to take a short term problem, the gap in the operating budget, and make it a long term problem by borrowing $10+ billion to cover it. After 2 years of boom at the hands of a strong statewide economy and record home sales (property tax reassessments), the state is now facing a true financial disaster because rather than paying down the debt with 2 years of surpluses, the politicians increased spending dramatically. 

California has never had a revenue problem, it has a serious spending problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand your point? This isn&#8217;t about Washington, it&#8217;s about Sacramento. We are facing a financial catastrophe because the Assembly and the Senate did not adequately address the last financial crisis by fixing the structural problem with the budget. What they did in 2003-2004 is to take a short term problem, the gap in the operating budget, and make it a long term problem by borrowing $10+ billion to cover it. After 2 years of boom at the hands of a strong statewide economy and record home sales (property tax reassessments), the state is now facing a true financial disaster because rather than paying down the debt with 2 years of surpluses, the politicians increased spending dramatically. </p>
<p>California has never had a revenue problem, it has a serious spending problem.</p>
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		<title>By: vinnie mirchandani</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinnie mirchandani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, we have a one party system. The Republicans in DC have not been angels..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, we have a one party system. The Republicans in DC have not been angels..</p>
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