Comments on: Microsoft fights Gmail in the workplace http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/ Jeff Nolan's take on investment, innovation, entrepreneurship and the technology industry Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:53:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Venture Chronicles http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-65471 Venture Chronicles Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:49:50 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-65471 [...] Email is another big admin burden for small companies and as I have written about before, expect to see more moves by Google and others in this space. We are pretty much already using gmail for work email, although I will say that they did give me reason for pause when they deleted 60 inboxes recently and gave a pretty lame “gee we’re sorry” explanation. I’m less concerned about data loss because I use Apple’s mail app against Gmail so I have a full offline copy of my inbox, I am concerned about the relatively cavalier attitude they had about the whole episode. [...] [...] Email is another big admin burden for small companies and as I have written about before, expect to see more moves by Google and others in this space. We are pretty much already using gmail for work email, although I will say that they did give me reason for pause when they deleted 60 inboxes recently and gave a pretty lame “gee we’re sorry” explanation. I’m less concerned about data loss because I use Apple’s mail app against Gmail so I have a full offline copy of my inbox, I am concerned about the relatively cavalier attitude they had about the whole episode. [...]

]]> By: Martin Edic http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-57064 Martin Edic Tue, 26 Dec 2006 15:23:52 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-57064 Try us- free, no ads, shared calenders, contacts and files, AS/AV, 5gb per user, domain support, up to 20 users per account, admin tools, etc. Hate to plug but its most of what exchange offers, with a lot more storage, web-based and, did I mention, free with no ads? Try us- free, no ads, shared calenders, contacts and files, AS/AV, 5gb per user, domain support, up to 20 users per account, admin tools, etc.
Hate to plug but its most of what exchange offers, with a lot more storage, web-based and, did I mention, free with no ads?

]]> By: Jeff http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55257 Jeff Sat, 23 Dec 2006 01:39:45 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55257 Allan, I'm just not that convinced on the privacy front, and even if there are issues I am not persuaded that I am at risk. In other words, privacy is an issue when you have something you want to keep private.... which if that is the case then don't use email to begin with. Aravind, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, but considering I am using but a fraction of my 3gb allocated storage I think it will be a while. Allan,
I’m just not that convinced on the privacy front, and even if there are issues I am not persuaded that I am at risk. In other words, privacy is an issue when you have something you want to keep private…. which if that is the case then don’t use email to begin with.

Aravind,
I’ll cross that bridge when I get to it, but considering I am using but a fraction of my 3gb allocated storage I think it will be a while.

]]> By: Aravind B http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55208 Aravind B Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:25:22 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55208 What happens when you fill up Gmail and you now get mails at a faster rate than they can grow your account? I think it will get to point where the world suffers from data pollution where a sizeable percentage of energy and resources is used for maintaing information that has no context and meaning because of the lack of discipline of end users to correctly manage what is relevant and what is not, the SUVs of the internet .... (until we find infinte clean energy) What happens when you fill up Gmail and you now get mails at a faster rate than they can grow your account? I think it will get to point where the world suffers from data pollution where a sizeable percentage of energy and resources is used for maintaing information that has no context and meaning because of the lack of discipline of end users to correctly manage what is relevant and what is not, the SUVs of the internet …. (until we find infinte clean energy)

]]> By: Allan http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55199 Allan Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:42:34 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55199 You may want to read Google's privacy policy (or total lack of privacy policy) before sending your corporate mail via Google. Confimation of anything Google-related is tricky, but the reason for all those data centers is to keep everything (even if you delete it). There are loopholes in the privacy and usage agreement large enough to sail a fleet of ships through. Especially if I were a technology company, I'd be wary of using Gmail for corporate mail. Google Apps for Your Domain has the same problems, and some additional scary language revolving around intellectual property (I'm no lawyer, so I can't evaluate anything that is there). You may want to read Google’s privacy policy (or total lack of privacy policy) before sending your corporate mail via Google.

Confimation of anything Google-related is tricky, but the reason for all those data centers is to keep everything (even if you delete it). There are loopholes in the privacy and usage agreement large enough to sail a fleet of ships through. Especially if I were a technology company, I’d be wary of using Gmail for corporate mail. Google Apps for Your Domain has the same problems, and some additional scary language revolving around intellectual property (I’m no lawyer, so I can’t evaluate anything that is there).

]]> By: Moonwatcher http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55112 Moonwatcher Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:19:30 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55112 <strong>Google's Impact on Microsot's Exchange Business...</strong> It looks like Microsoft is set to lose--and lose big--to Google. Again. ... Google’s Impact on Microsot’s Exchange Business…

It looks like Microsoft is set to lose–and lose big–to Google. Again.
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]]> By: Chris Selland http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55109 Chris Selland Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:11:42 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55109 Agree with you 99% - although you should have maybe retitled this "Gmail kicks Microsoft's butt in the workplace". It's not much of a fight. I happen to think that Gmail poses an even bigger threat to RIM. Not sure if you've used the new Gmail mobile client yet but it's great (if still a little bit buggy). Gmail also needs a delete key (yes I know I can do it with Greasemonkey but shouldn't have to) and Google Calendar needs better time zone support, but they're getting there in both respects. Agree with you 99% – although you should have maybe retitled this “Gmail kicks Microsoft’s butt in the workplace”. It’s not much of a fight.

I happen to think that Gmail poses an even bigger threat to RIM. Not sure if you’ve used the new Gmail mobile client yet but it’s great (if still a little bit buggy).

Gmail also needs a delete key (yes I know I can do it with Greasemonkey but shouldn’t have to) and Google Calendar needs better time zone support, but they’re getting there in both respects.

]]> By: Charlie Wood http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55103 Charlie Wood Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:59:05 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55103 James, Why not? Do you think Google will read them? Aren't you equally as worried about the various operators over whose networks and through whose servers your email travels en route? Regards, Charlie James,

Why not? Do you think Google will read them? Aren’t you equally as worried about the various operators over whose networks and through whose servers your email travels en route?

Regards,
Charlie

]]> By: Jeff http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55097 Jeff Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:31:05 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55097 My initial thought as well, but then I thought through it and couldn't come up with a single "bad act" that could happen, at least one that wouldn't be a violation of any number of laws. Can you? My initial thought as well, but then I thought through it and couldn’t come up with a single “bad act” that could happen, at least one that wouldn’t be a violation of any number of laws.

Can you?

]]> By: James Governor http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/comment-page-1/#comment-55036 James Governor Fri, 22 Dec 2006 12:51:04 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/12/21/microsoft-fights-gmail-in-the-workplace/#comment-55036 I wouldnt really feel comfortable sending customer associated materials and or trade secrets through gmail. fwiw - Zimbra, at least in its hosted form, doesn't perform as well as gmail. just my experience. I wouldnt really feel comfortable sending customer associated materials and or trade secrets through gmail.

fwiw – Zimbra, at least in its hosted form, doesn’t perform as well as gmail. just my experience.

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