Comments on: Software’s Sky is Not Falling http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/ Jeff Nolan's take on investment, innovation, entrepreneurship and the technology industry Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:50:28 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Zoli's Blog http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-17375 Zoli's Blog Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:30:28 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/#comment-17375 <strong>Enterprise Software is (Still) Not Dead...</strong> Recently I joined my fellow Irregulars (a work-group of bloggers, analysts, journalists who write about Enterprise Software) in jointly publishing an article on Sandhill: Software's Sky is Not Falling. All articles get edited, and that's even m... Enterprise Software is (Still) Not Dead…

Recently I joined my fellow Irregulars (a work-group of bloggers, analysts, journalists who write about Enterprise Software) in jointly publishing an article on Sandhill: Software’s Sky is Not Falling. All articles get edited, and that’s even m…

]]> By: Business Two Zero » Blog Archive » Is Enterprise Software doomed? - Update http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-15565 Business Two Zero » Blog Archive » Is Enterprise Software doomed? - Update Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:57:40 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/#comment-15565 [...] I posted earlier about the Enterprise Irregulars collective response, published by Sandhill in response to their opinion piece suggesting Open Source software would be the death of traditional Enterprise software.  Dan Farber (an Irregular) summarised our article on ZDnet.  Matt Asay argued against some of what we said, suggesting the outcome of the war between Open Source and Enterprise software isn’t in doubt: “Now can we go back to more pressing questions like, will Arsenal win today? Let’s hope so. That, at least, is in doubt. The software war is not. Open source is already winning. I can’t see anything to stem its rising tide.”Now it’s not just because he is an Arsenal fan, when I’m a lifelong West Ham United supporter, that I disagree with him.  The one is not going to completely displace the other, but Dan came back in again to argue the case.    The other Irregulars posted the more detailed versions of their input.  You can read: Dennis HowlettSadaogopanWoodrowJeff NolanVinnie MirchandaniZoli Erdos And then Don Dodge chipped in to expand the discussion: “This got me thinking about software development models, delivery models, licensing models, and business models. They are four different things, but are often confused and used interchangeably. Open Source can be used to describe all four models, but can be used selectively. For example, you could have software that was developed by an open source project team, delivered on an OEM server, licensed per server, and paid for on a term basis. In a world where software can be delivered as a service does it matter how it was developed?”Don’s right.  The various different approaches and models can all work and deliver value to customers (and shareholders).  The exciting thing both for the industry and the users is that the current explosion of innovation goes way beyond mere technology. Technorati Tags : Enterpise+Irregulars, Sandhill, Open+Source, SaaS, Arsenal, West+Ham, WHUFCPowered By Qumana   [link] [...] [...] I posted earlier about the Enterprise Irregulars collective response, published by Sandhill in response to their opinion piece suggesting Open Source software would be the death of traditional Enterprise software.  Dan Farber (an Irregular) summarised our article on ZDnet.  Matt Asay argued against some of what we said, suggesting the outcome of the war between Open Source and Enterprise software isn’t in doubt: “Now can we go back to more pressing questions like, will Arsenal win today? Let’s hope so. That, at least, is in doubt. The software war is not. Open source is already winning. I can’t see anything to stem its rising tide.”Now it’s not just because he is an Arsenal fan, when I’m a lifelong West Ham United supporter, that I disagree with him.  The one is not going to completely displace the other, but Dan came back in again to argue the case.    The other Irregulars posted the more detailed versions of their input.  You can read: Dennis HowlettSadaogopanWoodrowJeff NolanVinnie MirchandaniZoli Erdos And then Don Dodge chipped in to expand the discussion: “This got me thinking about software development models, delivery models, licensing models, and business models. They are four different things, but are often confused and used interchangeably. Open Source can be used to describe all four models, but can be used selectively. For example, you could have software that was developed by an open source project team, delivered on an OEM server, licensed per server, and paid for on a term basis. In a world where software can be delivered as a service does it matter how it was developed?”Don’s right.  The various different approaches and models can all work and deliver value to customers (and shareholders).  The exciting thing both for the industry and the users is that the current explosion of innovation goes way beyond mere technology. Technorati Tags : Enterpise+Irregulars, Sandhill, Open+Source, SaaS, Arsenal, West+Ham, WHUFCPowered By Qumana   [link] [...]

]]> By: Jeff http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-14674 Jeff Wed, 09 Aug 2006 00:58:38 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/#comment-14674 I agree I agree

]]> By: Anonymous http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-14625 Anonymous Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:36:52 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/#comment-14625 Are Enterprise software vendors like SAP and Oracle going to disappear? The answer absolutely not. However they have lot of challenges, to name few Sales process is broken UI close 1970's. Cost of outsource development is very attractive for in-house ERP systems. Past lies are catching up Open Source Most of the open source value currently is in the stack and not in applications. So I would Say enterprises will get more bang for the buck even enterprise vendors will get some benefit out of this. SaaS I think there is great value for both enterprises and vendors going forward. Currently SasS has about 1-2% penetration in enterprise space.If a single SaaS vendor ever comes up with entire application stack with same level of functionality as SAP and Oracle then it is time for enterprise software vendors say good bye. Until that time enterprise software vendors having nothing to fear. Are Enterprise software vendors like SAP and Oracle going to disappear? The answer absolutely not. However they have lot of challenges, to name few

Sales process is broken
UI close 1970’s.
Cost of outsource development is very attractive for in-house ERP systems.
Past lies are catching up

Open Source

Most of the open source value currently is in the stack and not in applications. So I would
Say enterprises will get more bang for the buck even enterprise vendors will get some benefit out of this.

SaaS

I think there is great value for both enterprises and vendors going forward. Currently SasS has about 1-2% penetration in enterprise space.If a single SaaS vendor ever comes up with entire application stack with same level of functionality as SAP and Oracle then it is time for enterprise software vendors say good bye. Until that time enterprise software vendors having nothing to fear.

]]> By: THE SMALL BUSINESS BLOG » Blog Archive » SaaS, the Holy Grail? http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/comment-page-1/#comment-14476 THE SMALL BUSINESS BLOG » Blog Archive » SaaS, the Holy Grail? Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:13:21 +0000 http://jeffnolan.com/wp/2006/08/07/softwares-sky-is-not-falling/#comment-14476 [...] Anyone read anything about user perspective here? There are some small attempts here, namely by Zoli. But most of the others are more interested in the technicalities of “delivering” or “pushing” the product. While this is a factor, it is not very important to the user. There are those how still believe, as Bill Gates apparently once said: [...] [...] Anyone read anything about user perspective here? There are some small attempts here, namely by Zoli. But most of the others are more interested in the technicalities of “delivering” or “pushing” the product. While this is a factor, it is not very important to the user. There are those how still believe, as Bill Gates apparently once said: [...]

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